Confused on what tires to go for..

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Wasif Ahmed
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Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:26 pm

Yes those are the Dune Grapplers and those under it are the BFG and what you summed up is totally accurate.

would love to try a set of Dune Grapplers on my FJ

Just saw a FJ today on Airport road with BFG Mud Terrain tires and they looked awsome ...have the rounded edges like you noticed on the Dune Grpplers and look cool too.
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Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:07 pm

Photos speak louder than words 8)

That BFG Mud-Terrain looks great! The next thing to do would be to compare the weight between Dune Grappler and BFG M/T, because even small savings in weight make a great difference, especially wheels, which are unsprung weight (under the suspension, see http://www.fact-index.com/u/un/unsprung_weight.html for more info)
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:42 am

Great advice and points PR :)

One thing i have been told, is mud terrains are made to dig into the mud and really get a good grip, while good sand tires are made to float.. have thick lugs of rubber like the BFG M/T's doesn't help in the sand becuase it doesnt keep you floating, if you notice on the dune grapplers or see them in real life, the lugs aren't too tall which might mean they might not last as long as the BFG M/T's but they will not float as well as the dune grapplers.. Take big 900 tires as an example, their tread is the opposite of agressive which makes them great on the sand and they are round like PR mentioned which causes them to really float :)

Plz correct me if im wrong :)
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Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:36 am

Totally agree - one thing where the aggressive mud-terrains work on sand is a high-powered car, which has enough power to spin the wheels, and therefore climbs better with the M/T as it needs the traction - with less aggressive treads the wheels just spin like crazy and don't bite enough to push the car forwards. In fact, last time at both Al Saad and Moreb hill climb challenge almost all the modified dune climbers were running 35" M/T... but for cars let's say under 400HP you won't get enough wheel spin to benefit from M/T (I don't mean a little spin every so often, I mean real wheel spin - like this:

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Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:11 am

I have tried the 900 sand tires on my Nissan Patrol. On level terrain, they are okay, however, I experienced difficulties on steep climbs.:smiley13: On my JK, I run Cooper STT's M/T and they work real well during climbs:smiley2:. However, it seems that the Nitto Dune Grapplers (wow, I love that name) are very good. Hhhmmmm... I'd love to try them on my Cherokee:smiley10:
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Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:45 am

I may not be pushing 400+HP......yet, but having the torque from the v8 really makes good use of the MTs on the climbs. I may be looking into the Nitto's once these wear out though as they are a great looking and performing tires!
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